Former Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island Was One of the “Undecided” Questioners

Conservative critics complained that the questions were relentlessly partisan in favor of Democrats and critical of Republicans.  Now we know one of the reasons why. Jim Lindgren over at the Volokh Conspiracy has the goods:

How good was Gallup’s vetting of the questioners at the 2d Presidential debate held at Hofstra on Long Island?

One explicitly feminist question was asked by undecided voter Catherine Fenton:

And it’s Katherine Fenton, who has a question for you.
QUESTION: In what new ways to [do] you intend to rectify the inequalities in the workplace, specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn?

By a strange coincidence, there happens to be a Catherine Fenton who in 2008 identified herself as the Media Coordinator of CodePink Long Island.

Is she the same Catherine Fenton? Presumably we will be able to determine this over the next few days. For now, it is worth noting that the CodePink Fenton discussed whether feminists in March 2008 should support Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or a third-party candidate:

As a liberal, I believed and still do believe, that after the complete and abject failure of conservatism, we should have been heralding in a President Al Gore, or if not, then a President John Edwards. Barack Obama is not my first choice. But as he did vote yes on banning cluster bombs in civilian areas, and speak out against this war before it happened, perhaps he is the better choice. Perhaps a third party candidate is a better choice for you. These are matters of individual conscience. But Hillary is not the answer.

And I’m not turning my feminist card in.


Catherine Fenton
Media Coordinator
CODEPINK Long Island

The CodePink Fenton seems to argue that Hillary Clinton is not reliably left wing enough for her tastes.


  1. Pete
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:22 am | Permalink | Reply

    The libs tampering may have actually backfired since Romney’s response on women was very well received.

  2. William Jefferson
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:33 am | Permalink | Reply

    Good grief. Who picks these people? Politico can run background checks on everyone who appears in a Romney ad but Gallup can’t weed out Codepink members?

  3. Kevin
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:51 am | Permalink | Reply

    Remember when Crowley “corrected” Romney on Obama calling it a terrorist attack, when in reality he didn’t? Remember the audience response?

    It makes me wonder how many other people in the audience were “undecided”.

    • No Tribe
      Posted October 17, 2012 at 1:00 am | Permalink | Reply

      There were partisans in the back, on both sides.

  4. No Tribe
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:59 am | Permalink | Reply

    Maybe, maybe not. I’ve seen enough of these early calls go wrong. And besides, I thought Mitt nailed that answer, and was watching the women dial go up on the CNN tape show that too.

    I was thinking about this earlier though, and given all of the facial recognition technology that is being developed, and being tied to people’s faces through surveillance, it will not be too long before a group of people put together like this will be able to be known by those with access to the technology and data. Google images is just a rudimentary start.

    • Pete
      Posted October 17, 2012 at 1:02 am | Permalink | Reply

      Debate narrative already changing. O’s performance being panned in CNN and MSNBC focus groups.

      Shortest debate victory in history?

      • No Tribe
        Posted October 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

        Wasn’t a victory. Won a plurality. Basically, the Independents said it was a tie, but then with the issues sided with Romney.

  5. No Tribe
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 1:00 am | Permalink | Reply

    Here’s one thing. There was a network, I think it was CNN, and Obama was out late talking with that young kid of 18, and basically had one of his campaign staffers there give him a job.

  6. Posted October 17, 2012 at 1:16 am | Permalink | Reply

    two issues: 1) Romney missed a PLATINUM opportunity to pivot from stocking his Mass. Gubernatorial cabinet with more women to President Obama routinely, multiple reports show, pays female staffers on average 1/4 less than similar male counter parts.

    And second…I think he missed an opportunity to nail Obama on basically telling the 18 yr old college kid only about manufacturing jobs…I mean honestly most people don’t go to 4 years of college to work the assembly line,.

    • Kevin
      Posted October 17, 2012 at 1:42 am | Permalink | Reply

      “And second…I think he missed an opportunity to nail Obama on basically telling the 18 yr old college kid only about manufacturing jobs…I mean honestly most people don’t go to 4 years of college to work the assembly line”

      I agree. Not only do kids not go to college to work on an assembly line, but this generation in general, looks down at that type of work, and are more interested in desks jobs. Either a white collar job, or a desk job at home working on a website.

    • No Tribe
      Posted October 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink | Reply

      Agreed Shane. That was getting shouted on Twitter. Could have slammed it home there.

      • Posted October 17, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

        I know it sounds very bad. But I worked in two different factories when I was in college. I am not above hard work. Been working since I was 14 digging out car wash pits, washing dishes, chef, factories, etc. Bottom line is I appreciate how that work can be tough, it is mind numbing. But it also reiterated why I was spending $50,000 and 4+ years of my life to go to good colleges, get some degrees and get a high paying job that wasn’t what I had to do most of my younger years.

        I’m 35, but kids today 25 and younger these are kids that for the most part have not had to work their entire lives. It is a new generation that has always been told how special they are. How great they are, Failing in school wasn’t an option, literally their schools aren’t allowed to fail. They received trophies for showing up, etc. These are kids (I am wildy generalizing) that beleive what mommy told that them, they they go to college, they graduate with anything they will get a nice kooshy job making tons of money doing nothing. So it’s okay to spend $100,000 at an elite school to get your degree in Modern Asian Transgender Art History and the jobs will be lined up for you when you get out.

        For Obama to talk about manufacturing works if he is talking to a 50+ guy laid off from the a plant. It doesn’t work with an 18 yr old kid in college. America has outgrown manufacturing. Our jobs of the future are in globalization, internet, health care, innovation, etc. Not rooted in the past of steel mills and coal mines. I just cannot see that argument working on a lot of younger kids. I don’t think it makes them vote Romney but it makes them not show up to vote for Obama.

        And green energy sounds nice. Doubling MPG sounds great. Until you do the math. A car that gets 80 MPG is going to cost 40% more than my current car and gasoline for it costs double what it did four years ago and no sign of retreat….so How do I win in this one? We ban coal because it’s bad…great Yay Earth…but wait my house costs 150% to heat and cool? How do I win in this?

  7. AussieMarcus
    Posted October 17, 2012 at 3:15 am | Permalink | Reply

    I think CNN have now acknowledged that the audience was made up mostly of Obama voters….

  8. bruceb
    Posted October 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

    If you click the link to Lindgren’s post at Volokh you’ll see he updated his post with a semi-retraction. The questioner was too young to be the code pink person with the same name. Not clear what Lindgren was basing his original post on other than using Google to find someone with the same name,which is pretty lame. Usually get better quality stuff out of the Volokh blog.

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